Scott Kiloby, Remez Sasson, Joan Tollifson: three pointers to the simplicity of the answer to “What is Nonduality?”

The more I read of Scott Kiloby’s ‘Reflections of the One Life’ the more I appreciate its good sense.

‘Delaying the Simple Recognition of Presence

It is easy to turn non-duality into a philosophy or spiritual path leading to some future attainment. The mind gets preoccupied in the drive to understand non-duality conceptually or to have a powerful spiritual experience or shift.

Turning the realization to which these words are pointing into a philosophy or spiritual path is an act of mental reductionism. These words are pointing to simple presence, which is available only now. This presence is not a thought or a goal in time. Thoughts and goals arise from presence.

Although the recognition that presence is what you are may happen gradually, the only point of entry — so to speak — is this moment.

The recognition is apparently delayed by trying to figure out non-duality through thought and by seeking some future attainment of it. The recognition is only available when focus turns away from trying to mentally grasp spiritual awakening and chase future attainment, and towards the simple presence that is aware of what is arising right now.

In seeing what is arising now, it appears that identification with spiritual ideas and goals delays or obscures presence. This presence is immediately available as the very life that you are before you try to grasp what that means conceptually or reach towards some future experience. In reality, that presence cannot be truly delayed or obscured by anything because it is appearing as everything, including as every thought and goal.’~ From: Reflections of the One Life, by Scott Kiloby http://www.kiloby.com/

COMMENT: It’s so simple – why does it take us so long for the penny to drop?

THE GEDDIT FACTOR: The geddit (get it?) factor has intrigued me for some time.

My own geddit has been a series of steps. I remember reading a beautiful passage by Ken Wilber.

Rupert Spira was a big step – and his teacher and teacher’s teacher.

Joan Tollifson was another big step – summed up in two things. Firstly the name of her website ‘The Simplicity of What Is’. Secondly the definition of meditation “Moment-to-moment presence that excludes nothing and sticks to nothing.”

The simplest of all arrived very recently, recently – inspired by a fine piece ‘What Is Nonduality?’ by Remez Sasson http://www.lookwithinyou.com/what-is-nonduality/

Out of that came;

When the heart-mind is quietened, there is only Oneness.
When the heart-mind is quietened, there is only Oneness.
When the heart-mind is quietened, there is only Oneness.

There is
no me and what I’m contemplating.
No me or her or him or them
No “me and the body”, “me and my mind” “me and the Spirit”- just Oneness.
No “me and ego” – just Oneness

When the heart-mind is quietened, there is only Oneness.
When the heart-mind is quietened, there is only Oneness.
When the heart-mind is quietened, there is only Oneness.

The one line, ‘When the heart-mind is quietened, there is only Oneness.’ is the most perfect, simple definition yet. It includes part of the how quiet (silence and stillness). Put it together with Joan’s “Moment-to-moment presence that excludes nothing and sticks to nothing.” and the how is complete;

“Moment-to-moment presence that excludes nothing and sticks to nothing. ‘When the heart-mind is quietened, there is only Oneness.’ – or should the sequence of the two sentences be reversed?

You will note how I have differed from Remez Sasson – heart-mind instead of just mind and quietened instead of silenced.

When the heart-mind is quietened, there is only Oneness.

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JOAN TOLLIFSON: on how her teacher Toni Packer taught via questionings

With typically inspiring frankness Joan Tollifson has an article on how her teacher questioned her as part of her teaching of Joan;

Examples are;

“Habit has two parts, Toni says. There is the habit itself (finger biting, smoking, drinking, whatever), and there is the observer who wants to stop, who is also a habit. And there is the conflict, the battle between the desire to indulge, which is an escape from what is, and the desire to stop, which is also a movement away from what is.

Toni suggests that the only real solution lies in complete awareness. In such awareness there is…no intention, no judgment, no conflict, no separation from the problem, no self to be improved or fixed, no direction. It is open, relaxed seeing.

“Can we look carefully at this ‘me’ that seems to be the power behind making decisions, really go into it, trace this chooser, this doer, all the way to the root?” Toni asks me.

When we do that together, all we find is thoughts. Conflicting thoughts: “I want to bite,” “I want to stop.” It feels like a battle between “me-the observer” and “me-the addict.” But both of these “me’s” are images constructed by thought and imagination. What’s actually going on is just an alternating, conflicting series of thoughts. No one is “doing” them; they’re happening.

“I have to bite,” “I can’t stop,” “I should stop,” “I’m addicted,” “I’m an addict,” “I’m a terrible person,” “How can I stop?” “If I just get this one loose end, then I’ll be satiated,” “It would be unbearable to feel what I would feel if I stopped,” “I’m stuck, this is hopeless,” “It’s been going on for a long time,” “It’s out of control,” “I’ll never get free,” “I should be able to control myself,” “This is sick,” “I want to be healthy.”

“These are all thoughts,” Toni says. “Do you see that?”

“But some of them are true,” I reply.

“Are they?” she asks with electric intensity, her eyes closed, her hands suspended in midair, listening.

“Well, I am addicted. It is out of control,” I insist.

“Thought seems to be just reporting the facts, objectively: ‘I’m addicted, this is out of control.’ But are these really facts? Or are they ideas? These are very powerful thoughts, and every thought produces neurochemical reactions in the body.”

Whichever position has more energy in that moment wins out, Toni suggests, and then there is either the thought, “I’m good because I had the will power to stop,” or “I’m a failure because I didn’t have enough will power to stop.” Thought creates “me” who has “done” one thing or the other, and is “successful” or “unsuccessful” as a result. And then more thoughts about me quickly follow: “I’m on my way to enlightenment” or “I’m a hopeless case on my way to total doom.” Either of these thought-trains will generate a tremendous response in the body, either good feelings or terrible feelings, elation or depression.

“Do you see how all these powerful thoughts and the feelings they produce in the body all revolve around the idea and image of ‘me’?” Toni asks. “Do you see how it’s all thinking?”

There is rain falling outside the meeting room, trickling down the window.”

Go here to read this wonderful article – http://www.joantollifson.com/writing19.html

JOAN TOLLIFSON: ‘The Simplicity of What Is’

Joan’s writing is deeply inspiring for many of us – she is one of our contemporary’s worlds best nonduality teachers.

I wonder about her focal point of ‘The Simplicity of What Is’. Not because I feel any challenge to the beauty and truth of The Simplicity of What Is but because the greater the simplicity the greater the demands that are placed on the the reader or listener. If we are wholly caught up in the agitation of a dual world and a false self image we need a bridge or life-line to experience the breakthrough of realization.

Having said that the bridges or life-lines that are necessary for all seekers exist in plenty in her books and in her Outpourings

Here is how Joan begins her piece on The Simplicity of What Is – read deeply her work here – http://www.joantollifson.com/writing1.html

The Simplicity of What Is – by Joan Tollifson
What is life all about? Does it mean anything? Where are we looking for happiness or liberation? Do we have free will? What is enlightenment and how can I get it? Can anything be done to free ourselves from depression, anxiety, compulsive behavior, wars, holocausts, prejudices? What is spiritual (and what isn’t)? What happens when we die?

The thinking mind wants to find answers to questions. When you’re trying to find out which bus to take or how to build a house, this ability to find answers is a useful function. But the thinking mind doesn’t know when to stop thinking or when thinking is useful and when it isn’t. And so, as we grow up, we live more and more in a conceptual world trying to think our way to happiness. We lose touch with the immediacy and wonder we had as children.

When I was a little girl, my mother used to give me a pail of water and a paintbrush so that I could paint on the sidewalk. I’d paint these paintings on the sidewalk with water, and they would disappear in a matter of minutes, but that didn’t matter because what I was enjoying was the sheer joy of doing it. It needed no reward, no praise, no permanence. It was complete in itself.

And then at another point in my life, I was an art student, and I can remember seriously questioning whether it was worth painting at all if I weren’t Leonardo or Picasso, if I were less than perfect. That sense of playfulness and curiosity that children have so naturally, enjoying the simplicity of being, gets overshadowed by this attempt to make something out of me, to make “me” into a successful me.

Very often when we come to spirituality, even when it’s supposedly all about waking up from this story of me, it morphs into it’s own new version of this same story, focused now on how successfully I’m waking up, how well I’m meditating, whether I’m enlightened or not. Oddly enough, this me that we’re so concerned about may be nothing more than a kind of mirage or mental image, the central character in a movie story generated by thought and imagination, nothing real at all.

How can we find out? Is it possible to wake up from this mental mirage, this entrancement in thought? What is it that would wake up? Is it “me”? Or is it something else?

Again, the thinking mind looks immediately for answers. We seek out authorities and adopt their views. We cling to ideas and explanations, and seek bigger and better experiences.
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Liberation is not about having the answers or having an experience. It has nothing to do with belief, but is rather the absence (or transparency, or seeing through) of belief. Waking up does not happen in the past or the future, only Now. Liberation or enlightenment is not something you find or acquire like a new car. It is not some dazzling or exotic experience like being permanently high on ecstasy or LSD. Liberation is seeing through or waking up from entrancement in the ubiquitous fabrications and mirages of conceptual thought, including the whole idea of being a separate someone who supposedly needs to be liberated. Liberation is being just this moment, recognizing the simplicity of what is and being awake to the undivided unicity that is ever-present and ever-changing. It is the absence of the belief that “this isn’t it,” and the falling away of the search for enlightenment “out there” somewhere in the future. Liberation is realizing the emptiness of every apparent form and the unbound openness that is always Here / Now even in the midst of apparent contraction or resistance.

Ultimate Reality is hidden right in front of our eyes in plain view. It is showing up as breakfast dishes, laundry, sunlight on leaves, the barking of a dog, sound of traffic or rain, the humming of the computer, the taste of tea, the shapes of these words, and the awareness being and beholding it all. And only when we describe all of this in words does it seem as if “awareness” is one thing and “the taste of tea” is something else. The non-conceptual actuality of this breathing-hearing-seeing-awaring-being is undivided, without center or periphery. No inside, no outside. No subject, no object. Simply this, just as it is.

Go to Joan’s Outpourings here – http://www.joantollifson.com/writing1.html

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Joan Tollifson – Buddha at the Gas Pump interview (86) some wonderful material

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Joan Tollifson writes and talks about the ever-changing, ever-present aliveness of Here / Now, that which is obvious, unavoidable and impossible to doubt.

She has an affinity with Advaita, Buddhism and radical nonduality, but she belongs to no tradition or lineage.

Her main teacher was Toni Packer, but Joan has also studied with several Buddhist teachers and has spent time with a number of Advaita and nondual teachers.

She has been holding meetings on nonduality since 1996. In her books and meetings, Joan invites people to explore their actual present moment experience and to question the deep-seated assumption that we are each an independent entity encapsulated inside a separate bodymind looking out at an alien world.

Instead, we may discover that everything is one seamless, boundless, unbroken whole in which there are no separate parts. Joan also invites people to question the deep-seated assumption that we are in control of our lives (or should be), and she points to the realization that everything is one choiceless happening. Joan is known for her honesty and her sense of humor.

She is the author of
Bare-Bones Meditation: Waking Up from the Story of My Life (1996),
Awake in the Heartland: The Ecstasy of What Is (2003),
Painting the Sidewalk with Water: Talks and Dialogs about Nonduality (2010),

Joan’s books can be found here – http://www.amazon.co.uk/Joan-Tollifson/e/B0034OPP3Q/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1458493635&sr=1-1

Joan has lived in California, New York and Chicago, and is currently living in southern Oregon.

Everyday awakening: The ‘transcendence overlap’ between poetry & sacred scriptures

TOPICS: Love poetry, magic moments, healing via welcoming all ‘visitors’, self-integration through reincarnation letting go past & future & dropping ‘vicious circles’, our shadow self – in response to unintegrated ‘inner weather’, ‘I’ being the light (of awareness) Remember JT’s definition of meditation; “moment-to-moment presence that excludes nothing, and sticks to nothing.”

1a)
The Awakening by James Weldon Johnson, 1871 – 1928 SOURCE
I dreamed that I was a rose
That grew beside a lonely way,
Close by a path none ever chose,
And there I lingered day by day.
Beneath the sunshine and the show’r
I grew and waited there apart,
Gathering perfume hour by hour,
And storing it within my heart,
Yet, never knew,
Just why I waited there and grew.

I dreamed that you were a bee
That one day gaily flew along,
You came across the hedge to me,
And sang a soft, love-burdened song.
You brushed my petals with a kiss,
I woke to gladness with a start,
And yielded up to you in bliss
The treasured fragrance of my heart;
And then I knew
That I had waited there for you. -0-

1b
Jenny Kiss’d Me by Leigh Hunt
Jenny kiss’d me when we met,
Jumping from the chair she sat in;
Time, you thief, who love to get
Sweets into your list, put that in!
Say I’m weary, say I’m sad,
Say that health and wealth have miss’d me,
Say I’m growing old, but add,
Jenny kiss’d me.

2)
The Guest House, by Rumi (The Essential Rumi – Coleman Barks)
This being human is a guest house.
Every morning a new arrival.

A joy, a depression, a meanness,
some momentary awareness comes
as an unexpected visitor.

Welcome and entertain them all!
Even if they’re a crowd of sorrows,
who violently sweep your house
empty of its furniture,
still, treat each guest honorably.
He may be clearing you out
for some new delight.

The dark thought, the shame, the malice,
meet them at the door laughing,
and invite them in.

Be grateful for whoever comes,
because each has been sent
as a guide from beyond.

3) COMMENTARY BY JULIAN SPALDING: In the Guest House Rumi is telling us that the entirety of human experience is valuable. None of it is to be discounted as unnecessary or even avoidable. All emotions are valid and indeed desirable, even those we wish to evade. One moment is joyful, another is depressed, even meanness demands attention. Accept and honor them all, he says, because each portends a new state of being. Each is the portal to new awareness. Accepting each state is accepting the entirety of one’s being. The shadow and the light carry equal weight.

Although he doesn’t expressly say it, implicit in his poem is the truth that emotions that are repressed come back to haunt us in malicious forms. When we look the dark thought in the face, allow the shame to be loved, it ceases to demand our attention. All the ugly children, the orphans, only want to be admitted into conscious awareness & no longer considered unlovable. When each is admitted and embraced, the prodigal son comes home. When the visitor is given welcome, a new dispensation is permitted.

The only way I can know the truth of Rumi’s poem is by its relevance to my own life journey. When I allowed my deep toxic shame to see the light of day, for my own exiled self to be embraced, only then could the shamed little boy be allowed to heal by feeling loved as he is. He thought he was unlovable with his unacceptable desires to love other boys. Only when he could love his shamed self could that self be transformed. Only when he allowed himself to be revealed authentically, could he be released from his prison of shame and self judgment. It isn’t in being lovable that he found release, but in being unlovable that he could step into a new self definition.

Rumi’s poem reveals the truth that being human is messy. Admit all feelings to the banquet of love or else they will destroy you by their insistence to be recognized, embraced and admitted to full conscious awareness. Rumi validates my own life experience and inner knowing, reminding me to be grateful for all my inner family, the dark and the light, the shame and the triumphant spirit, the malice and the generosity of spirit.

I think the poem ties in beautifully with Jung’s concept of the shadow. When feelings are disowned and banished to the unconscious, they exert undue influence on our lives. They demand to be recognized despite our attempts to repress them. Conversely, when disowned parts of self are recognized and integrated into conscious awareness, we become a more whole version of ourselves. When all parts are accepted or integrated, the house welcomes all guests. © 2012 Julian Spalding -0-

4) In Jungian psychology, the shadow or “shadow aspect” may refer to (1) an unconscious aspect of the personality which the conscious ego does not identify in itself. Because one tends to reject or remain ignorant of the least desirable aspects of one’s personality, the shadow is largely negative, or (2) the entirety of the unconscious, i.e., everything of which a person is not fully conscious. There are, however, positive aspects which may also remain hidden in one’s shadow (especially in people with low self-esteem).[1] Contrary to a Freudian definition of shadow, therefore, the Jungian shadow can include everything outside the light of consciousness, and may be positive or negative. “Everyone carries a shadow,” Jung wrote, “and the less it is embodied in the individual’s conscious life, the blacker and denser it is.”[2] It may be (in part) one’s link to more primitive animal instincts,[3] which are superseded during early childhood by the conscious mind. (WikiPedia) -0- Cf awakening as resting as awareness.

RP Religions are created via the founder High-prophets ‘poetry’ of Revelation + their commentaries – and so are we through spiritual awakening They ‘run down’ degenerate via all forms corruption + churchianity-ization (structures contrary to original).
5) The Infinite “I” SOURCE
You Are The Light

Jesus said:
“I” is the light (of awareness)
that shines upon all things. “I” is the All
from which everything emanates
and to which everything returns. St. Thomas

In a talk, given some time ago in India, entitled: The Power of Not Knowing, Eckhart Tolle quoted from an English translation of the Kena Upanishad the following lines which he said were an important ‘pointer’ to our true Self;

Not that which the eye sees, but that whereby the eye can see,
Know that alone to be Brahman, the Eternal, and not what people here adore.
Not that which the ear hears, but that whereby the ear can hear,
Know that alone to be Brahman, the Eternal, and not what people here adore.
Not that which the mind thinks, but that whereby the mind can think,
Know that alone to be Brahman, the Eternal, and not what people here adore.

Eckhart then went on to say …
The word “I” is the most frequently used word in the English language … or in any language. Usually, when people use the word “I”, they are referring to ‘me and my story’ — the conditioned entity — the fiction that I identify with as ‘me.’

But there is a deeper meaning to “I” — that is, the delusion of “I” — the delusion of (the egoic) self. For ultimately, “I” is a sacred word, (indicating the unborn, eternal Self).

“I”, on the normal level of human consciousness, expresses delusion, which is what the Buddha recognised when he saw the delusion of ‘self’ — he referred to that “I” and he saw through it.

And so, when that delusion is recognised, (it can be seen) that recognition already originates from the unconditioned Consciousness. The delusional entity cannot recognise its own delusion, so the recognition of it is already the light shining through from underneath, so to speak.

From there (this unconditioned Consciousness) arises the recognition of the delusion of the story-based, form-based, mind-based, identification-based identity.

This is what Jesus referred to when he said, “Before Abraham was, I am.” Not, “Before Abraham was, I was already.” There is neither ‘was’ nor ‘will be’ in “I”, it IS eternal Presence — eternal ‘Nowness’. And this is what the Upanishad refers to also — it is the Formless, it is the Unconditioned.

It (the infinite unconditioned “I”) is known, but never in a subject/object relationship — it cannot be known in such a way. So one could say, it cannot be known at all – you can only BE it. Realise that you ARE it, but cannot know it as you know an object in consciousness

For thousands of years, people have been trying to make God into an object in consciousness — the idea of God, the image of God, statements about (God) etc.

This is why the Upanishad says, “Not what people here adore” — that is not God — not that which you see, not that which you hear, not that which you think, not (even) that which you believe in, because belief is thought.

You believe in God — that also is “Not what people here adore” — it is a mental idol — ultimately, it is an ideology.

You believe in God and the person next to you believes in Communism — two ideologies! So it’s “Not what people here adore” — not that which the mind thinks, not that which the mind believes, but That which makes all thinking, all believing, all sense-perception possible. The Formless, out of which all forms arise.

And That is the innermost “I”, the (formless) Essence that gets mixed up in your life with forms -that is, the deepest innermost Self. ~ Transcribed from a talk given by Eckhart Tolle in Rishikesh, India, as recorded in DVD series, Touching the Eternal — Disk 3. entitled:The Power of Not Knowing.

I wonder if I know him by ~ Rabindranath Tagore, “I”.

In whose speech is my voice,
In whose movement is my being,
Whose skill is in my lines,
Whose melody is in my songs
In joy and sorrow.

I thought he was chained within me,
Contained by tears and laughter,
Work and play.

I thought he was my very self
Coming to an end with my death.
Why then in a flood of joy do I feel him
In the sight and touch of my beloved?
This ‘I’ beyond self I found
On the shores of the shining sea.

Therefore I know
This ‘I’ is not imprisoned within my bounds.

Losing myself, I find him
Beyond the borders of time and space.

Through the Ages
I come to know his Shining Self
In the Iife of the seeker,
In the voice of the poet.
From the dark clouds pour the rains.

I sit and think:
Bearing so many forms, so many names,
I come down, crossing the threshold
Of countless births and deaths.

The Supreme undivided, complete in himself,
Embracing past and present,
Dwells in Man.

Within Him I shall find myself –
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Joan Tollifson gives us the only definition of reincarnation that makes sense – We can notice how the “same old me” with “my same old problems” reincarnates through thinking & story-telling, how “the same old world” is seemingly recreated again & again? She also refers to the inner drama of thought & feelings as being ”inner weather’ Two brilliant ideas. -0- END -0-

TAGS: Love poetry, magic moments, healing, Rumi, self-integration, reincarnation, letting go past & future, dropping ‘vicious circles’,shadow self, unintegrated shadow self, ‘inner weather’, the light of awareness, Joan Tollifson, meditation aa “moment-to-moment presence that excludes nothing, and sticks to nothing.”

JOAN TOLLIFSON: on ‘radical simplicity’ – religion as simple attention, awareness, healing and presence

Joan Tollifson Simplicity of what is

In the three quotations below we have a view of religion, or at least of its essential spirituality, that is radically simple. It seems to me that together they express the healing heart of the universally mystical that is essential to our discovery of our true Self via healing at-one-ment.

They also constitute pointers to the essential mystical core of all of the great Traditions, now so often buried or banished beneath Churchianity. (Make up your own term for each of the other great Traditions. ‘Churchianity’ refers to the usurpation of the essential Christ story and teachings in which like the mystics we are asked to Awaken more, Detach from egotistic self more and Serve others better. Just that.)

For Joan, and others, meditation, brilliantly, is; “moment-to-moment presence that excludes nothing and sticks to nothing”. ‘Bare-Bones Meditation: Waking up from the Story of My Life’.

“Maybe that is the purest and most radical kind of religion – simple attention. Present-moment awareness. Instead of a belief system, awareness sees through all beliefs.”
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“….we maintain awareness, whether we know it or not, healing is taking place… a door that has been shut begins to open…. As the door opens, we see that the present is absolute and that, in a sense, the whole universe begins right now, in each second. And the healing of life is in that second of simple awareness…. Healing is always just being here, with a simple mind. ‌—‌Charlotte Joko Beck” ― Joan Tollifson, Nothing to Grasp
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“In simple presence with what is right here now, be it joyful or painful, an amazing freedom reveals itself. It cannot be described or explained in words. It is the freedom to be totally, effortlessly the way things are at this moment. ‌—‌Toni Packer” ― Joan Tollifson, Nothing to Grasp

BUT 24/7 NONDUAL EXPERIENCE IS NOT THE (ONLY?) GOAL IN THIS WORLD – BELIEFS and THE DUAL ARE ALSO VITAL
We are citizens of two realms as taught us by Rebbe Abraham Heschel.

This is by design not by mistake. It wasn’t God having an ‘off-day’! In these teachings we ordinary mortals share the life of the mystic.

SEE: http://www.satyana.org/pdf/SongoftheEartheBook.pdf 1

JOAN TOLLIFSON, religion, simple attention, awareness, nonduality, consciousness, advaita, healing, presence, attention, Charlotte Joko Beck, Toni Packer,

JOAN TOLLIFSON: "Addiction is a metaphor for the human condition." – video interview by Renate of Conscious.TV

“Addiction is a metaphor for the human condition.” – Joan Tollifson cf Eckart Tolle’s ‘the human condition, lost in thought’.

Joan Tollifson ‘Painting the Sidewalk with Water’ Interview by Renate McNay

She is the author of ‘Bare-Bones Meditation: Waking Up from the Story of My Life’, ‘Awake in the Heartland’, ‘Painting the Sidewalk with Water’ and ‘Nothing to Grasp’.

Joan points to the most obvious and impossible to avoid: the ever-present, ever-changing present moment. She also talks about her disability and compulsive, habitual behaviour and her biggest relief… that there is nowhere to go and nothing to become.

Toni Packer was her Teacher.

http://www.conscious.tv